I’ve learn Glynis “The Numbers Lady” on a few podcasts now, and I really like her. She has such a fun energy, and her interpretation of the energy of various numbers does seem to resonate with me (and obviously a number of her fans!)
One thing she did say was “Pythagoras was one of the first numerologists!”
Really Glynis? I’m a GIANT math nerd and I love numbers (I was an accountant for seven years, believe it or not!) I know my way around an imaginary number, I considered ironically naming my dog “Pi” and I love the beauty of a balanced equation. But never any of my mathematical studies (algaebra, calculus, finite math and a bit of quantum mechanics) have I run into anything linking the “Father of Numbers” with anything as airy-fairy as numerology!
Turns out, I just wasn’t looking in the right place.
Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_numerology#Pythagorean_system
I LOVE this:
St. Augustine of Hippo (A.D. 354–430) wrote "Numbers are the Universal language offered by the deity to humans as confirmation of the truth."
That is precisely why I love numbers. It’s like that famous Albert Einstein (Albie) quote: If you can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough.”
True! All balanced equations can & should be able to boil down to an identifiable set of factors, or at least symbols for factors you can’t yet explain / understand. I love looking at the universe through the eyes of math, yet, as Albie mentioned last year, I agree / believe we “do not have all the numbers”.
Here’s the entry I’m referring to: https://psychicintraining.wordpress.com/2012/01/27/einstein-friday/
Anyway, nothing in my formal education had indicated that Pythagoras had anything to contribute to the magic and theory of numbers, they only taught the algebraic relationship he observed with triangles:
When I heard Glynis talking yesterday, I thought, “I’ve got to ask Pythagoras about numerology. See what he says.” And here he is:
He’s coming through as a slight / small man, one who’s frame is small, he’s got this air of one who sits still a lot. His voice is very quiet, almost like he doesn’t tend to use it.
Pythagoras – (I stumble over the typing of his name, and he says it’s a wonder you’ve a firm grasp of numbers when you cannot grasp my name.) Okay, you know “Sheldon” from the TV series “The big bang theory”? That’s Pythagoras’ vibe.
I comment about that being a bit rude and he says It is not rude to observe the truth.
Okay, I can accept the irony. While you were alive, did you theorize about the “energy” (he doesn’t understand quotation marks, let me try something else) Did you theorize that there was magic in numbers?
Yes. I (shows me how he literally saw numbers in everything. Angles in tree growth, chairs, buildings, stones – everything could be expressed in a formula – it’s like he could SEE the fractals of generation in every single thing around him. He believed he could see God.) Not GOD, my dear, merely the (thumbprint) of (The Highest Male Deity).
I ask why a male deity, is there feminine energy?
Females are the vehicles for masculine propagation.
Holy shit. Taking a minute to set aside my knee-jerk feminist reaction. Okay.
Why did you come to that conclusion? That masculine energy is the creating force (the numbers, the fractals) and females are the vehicle by which the creation comes into being?
Because it is obvious. (Shows me every animal in the world where female gives birth to the male essence.)
Okay, another breath here. Pause.
So, I think it’s really amazing how you saw the world in (fractals, moving special relationships, golden ratio everywhere.) Could you please tell me something about this sacred masculine energy of creation manifested in numbers that I do not know?
Ah. (strokes chin – he smokes too, I can smell it.) When I look into the flame of the candle, I see the pattern of its’ flickering. I count the flickers in my mind, I observe the spread of light across my paper. I wonder how to explain this, how to document this in a lasting meaningful way, so it can be understood. I am despairing at times that there will ever be another human being such as myself who can fully grasp the majesty of Creation, which is everywhere, which is all around us.
Did you feel alone? All (men of God?) are alone. (I think my brain picked those words, it’s like he’s saying all those who see the world in a unique way are alone – it’s another way of saying “no one understands me, no one understands my work.”)
I struggled daily to bring this understanding (to the masses – he’s talking like he’s a priest of numbers.) The greatest challenge (for my magnificent mind) was to imagine ways of explaining the magnificence of the world and all of God’s creation.
Were you a very religious man? Christian? (He says the word I use for Christian in the context of our time does not describe his faith in life.)
What about philosophers? Aristotle? Ah yes, Plato, (Greek, the great ones!). Yes these were men who lived (before my time) whom I would have loved to have met. (Shows me books he kept close at hand with their writings.)
ASIDE (I double-checked the dates after writing this, because it didn’t feel right. While Pythagoras lived 570 – 495 BC, Aristotle & Plato lived AFTER Pythagoras died. So I’m not really sure what that statement was about. But I don’t go back and change what they said, so I’m going to leave this as is.)
Did they have anything to say that dove-tailed with your work? Yes, but you wouldn’t understand it.
Pause.
Well, I am very interested in talking to you about your work. Would you like to continue to talk to me? I find your mind limiting, yet your reach, intriguing. Yet I do not find it worthy of my time.
Okay. Thank you for talking to me.
Well. That didn’t go as I expected! Huh. Albert Einstein, are you available?
Comes in laughing – he’s always a huge busy energetic presence, and fairly LOUD! He shows me that Pythagoras has returned to sitting at a wooden desk with dim candlelight and he continues to contemplate / observe the swirling matrix of creation. He says Pythagoras has been sitting there for centuries! He says: He is a very dull man.
Albie, do you have any thoughts on numerology?
I LOVE numerology – it is EXPANSIVE! (Meaning he loves anything that encourages people to expand their minds around the workings of numbers, and question the meaning of “1”) One what? One apple? One apple seed? One apple cell? One apple-cell-atom? One apple-cell-sub-atomic-particle? One apple photon? MY GOODNESS! There is no such thing as ONE! ONE does not exist when you break it down as such, because everything that we describe with these solid, cumbersome concepts of “numbers” is merely describing a bulky physical object!
Yet, physicality, my dear, as you are learning, is merely an illusion, a temporary state of being in this temporal flux of a universe with context of linear time, and (shows me points on a graph).
Okay, this is what he showed me. Picture a sine wave:
Now, pick a point on this wave. This point can be described using a formula, or by plotting coordinates manually, within the context of the reality we understand. THAT is when “matter” is understood. But when you start removing context factors, like time or (showing me the double-slit experiment) an observer, it becomes impossible to describe a single point on the wave, which is when we are widening our scope to observe matter for what it really is, which is light / energy – an equation, proportions that are significant only in the context of each other.
I love being a physicist in energy form! HA HA HAA! Do you know how easy it is to lecture in (space/heaven)? I do not need words, and many millions of souls attend my lectures while they sleep – they go backwards in time to attend as their understanding evolves linearly (shows me it’s kind of like watching an old TED talk on youtube – which by the way he says is a glorious invention!)
I love to tickle the ears of earth (physicists / scientists / mathematicians) and drive them MAD with new ideas! (Shows me a fevered professor jolt out of sleep and leap out of bed to scribble on his white board for ages! Shows me himself standing beside this person continuing to feed him formulas which they learned last night.)
It is true, humanity was stupid for a (long time). Bah! We must all behave stupidly (for a portion of our lives – adolescence – a portion of our incarnations – spiritual “adolescence”) This is not unfortunate! For it is our stupidity that gives birth to our JOY when we discover (learning / truth / knowledge / opposite of ignorance) !!!!!
My dear, I love (this/topic/chats) but you are needed, and I (am bored?) SERIOUSLY!? Albie I bore you! HA HA HAA! I am only teasing! Ha haa! (calls me something in German, it means “precious” and he tweaks my cheek.)
Thank you Albie, I love you too.
There is definitely a sacred element to geometry.
But Pythagoras — wow. I don’t what to say.
Oh wait — actually, I do! It reminds me of something Albie said: “If you can’t explain something simply, you don’t understand it well enough”. Really, he could’ve done a knowledge drop if words don’t convey the idea — it’s a poor excuse.
Here’s what I’ve always felt about Pythagoras, is that he was right about a lot of things, and he was wrong about a lot of things. Like he figured out a lot of things about spatial relationships and found really simple, consistent ways to explain these relationships. Like angles. There’s a logical consistency there, but then he attempts to apply that to cosmology (assuming if it’s true for one thing it must be universal) and the whole thing goes off the rails. IMO. For example (this is from Wikipedia):
“The Music of the Spheres incorporates the metaphysical principle that mathematical relationships express qualities or ‘tones’ of energy which manifest in numbers, visual angles, shapes and sounds – all connected within a pattern of proportion. Pythagoras first identified that the pitch of a musical note is in proportion to the length of the string that produces it, and that intervals between harmonious sound frequencies form simple numerical ratios.[1] In a theory known as the Harmony of the Spheres, Pythagoras proposed that the Sun, Moon and planets all emit their own unique hum (orbital resonance) based on their orbital revolution,[2] and that the quality of life on Earth reflects the tenor of celestial sounds which are physically imperceptible to the human ear.[3] Subsequently, Plato described astronomy and music as “twinned” studies of sensual recognition: astronomy for the eyes, music for the ears, and both requiring knowledge of numerical proportions.[4]”
It’s a nice idea, but is it true? And I wonder, does he *still* think it’s true?
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Hmmm! I think it’s another way of describing life as vibration, right? We describe light in terms of wave patterns, we to the same with sound.
It’s a cool way of thinking about it. And remember when George was talking about the sitar, the range of the sitar and how the correct harmony could manifest things from thin air?
I also have this internal dialogue going on, where I’m explaining to someone why I can’t just write out all of dead-Einstein’s theories and hand them off to some physicist. It’s because the translation is only as good as MY understanding of current theory, and my education does not go beyond what would be considered first year university math.
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Oh yeah. Maybe he had stumbled onto something, and was right in essence. And if so, what came first, the sphere or the vibration?
Search YouTube for Cymatics: Bringing Matter to Life With Sound. It’s fascinating, you can basically see this in action.
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Both happened simultaneously because there *is* no time.
*mind hole*
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It is an argument for trance channeling though… in theory if Albie could just write it out himself… but then there would be the lack of context. Maybe in universities of the future trance channels would travel around to lecture halls to clue current professors in on what the likes of Albie & company are doing in the field on the other side.
It’s an interesting idea.
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This cracked me up. Albert Einstein seems like the man.
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